Hamas isn't Perfect - Rapes On 10/7 Change Nothing

in Gaza has been diap. In contrast, this has been welcomed by the Palestinian

Authority

It's so psychotic, but also in a way, kind of comical, that like every single

time the

rest of the world, like Western leaders are like, "Hey man, you should probably

not kill so many

Palestinians, like what are we doing here?" Israel will be like, "I'll show you

, I'll show you."

Like, the world will be like, "Hey, you're really restricting a lot of aid from

going into

Palestinians, houses, like going into Gaza, like it's really fucked up."

Because we'll be like, "I'll show you, I'll fucking restrict even more aid. Ha

ha! Fuck you!"

And it's like ridiculous. They don't understand. They don't understand that

this is only further

negatively polarizing the rest of the world against them. They don't understand

it.

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I get that we want to be careful, given Israel's spreading mis-info and its use

of anything they push

inside, but it's sad to see first people just dismiss any non-first-hand

account out of hand.

First-hand accounts are always going to be rare for extreme sexual violence and

extreme

incident like this. It takes so much braver to come out. There's other credible

second-hand

circumcision evidence. We should maybe handle with more care and empathy. I

understand the

question, but still, yeah, I'm- there is- there is- there needs to be more

evidence conducted

in order to- in order to make a proper assertion of what happened, especially

as it pertains

to- especially as it pertains to sexual violence.

I would like for us to be at a place where saying maybe there were some sexual

violence

doesn't make you as honest. I mean, I say that, and I don't think it makes me a

Zionist.

I say that as well.

But if the- but if the conclusive evidence is coming from Zakah or the Israeli

government

or the Israeli police force claiming that they have a mountain of evidence-

because

remember, the Israeli police force said they had a mountain of evidence.

And then when questioned on it further said no ev- they had no evidence

whatsoever.

Like if all we can rely on is the word of the IDF, that's ridiculous.

There is, however, evidence. There is, however, real evidence as far as like

first-hand accounts

and testimony, even second-hand accounts and testimony from- from hostages.

So that part is real that- that- that did happen.

Which is very important, and that was a part of the UN investigation that was

conducted.

I've never discounted that, just like I've never discounted the likelihood that

sexual violence

did occur on October 7th and after.

How do you dismiss accounts of kerosene and burning, but not dismiss sexual

violence?

What do you mean?

I don't- I- because one- there is no evidence whatsoever for one.

It is completely and utterly made up.

But there is a likelihood for the other and also evidence as far as first-hand

testimony

from a hostage.

The fuck?

That's the difference.

*sigh*

Anyway, the problem, however, is that given the intensity and proclivity for

the Israeli state

to lie about things like this, and also other, like, non-professional forensic

accounting

being conducted on October 7th, this is muddied the waters so much that

understandably,

many people are like, "What the fuck? Why am I- how am I going to believe this?

How am I supposed to believe anything that Israel says?"

There's a perfectly valid fucking criticism to have against the state that has

lied every

single step of the fucking way.

Many hostages have records of saying two different things.

Also, how are you sure Israel didn't force them to lie?

That's ridiculous.

By the way, none of which justifies Israel's actions, so it doesn't even matter

.

None of this justifies that Palestinians have a right to dignity, a right to

emancipation,

a right to live fucking free lives, free from this occupation.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter if fucking rapes happen on October 7th.

Like, that doesn't change the dynamic for me even this much.

So, that's the other part of this problem that many people can't contend with.

Like, the Palestinian resistance is not perfect.

They're not, like, so good.

They have magical bullets, and there's no criminal elements that could have

conducted

themselves very differently.

Like, that doesn't change the dynamic for me at all.

It's so fucking stupid to act like, "No, they're perfect.

They were perfect on October 7th."

And they were conducted themselves perfectly.

But these kinds of stories delegitimize Palestinian resistance?

No, it does not.

What the fuck are you talking about?

No, you think it delegitimize Palestinian resistance, okay?

You think so.

I don't.

The fuck?

You're correct.

And watch "Defreaks with Clippy Out of Context" and I'll call you pro rape.

Yeah, dude.

Sure.

It is ridiculous.

I've never -- I've never been a -- I've never had the mindset that, like,

victims of a

genocidal apartheid regime have to be perfect.

Although they have conducted themselves in perfectly peaceful ways, and we all

know what

happened in the Great March of Return.

So the idea that, like, Palestinians haven't tried that is also silly.

Okay.

Let's finish this off.

Let's finish this off.

In the Palestinian leadership, the Palestinian Authority said they welcome the

decision taken

today by Spain, Norway, and Ireland.

And they've explained that with this important step, these countries have

demonstrated their

firm commitment to the two-state solution and achieving long-awaited justice

for the

Palestinian people.

They think this moves, the Palestinians closer to full recognition, full state

hood accepted

by all the countries of the world.

But the response from Israel is that this damages Israel's security, undermines

Israel's

right to self-defense, and does not help the peace process in the long term.

And Dan, all of this comes as we're hearing that the United Nations has halted

food distribution

in Rafa due to shortages and hostilities.

Yeah, there's been a real difficulty getting aid into Gaza, whether that's over

the land crossings

or via the new maritime route that was opened up last week, when the U.S.

military put in

place this floating platform.

We know some aid shipments have been able to get in via the sea route and via

the land borders,

but then there's a problem of distributing it.

There's been a security issue.

Some aid shipments have been ransacked by desperate Palestinians trying to get

hold

of food supplies and medical treatment, and that's prompted the U.N.

to actually cease distribution.

We know that very little aid's been coming in through that floating platform,

despite the

huge amounts of money and the effort that was put into, put in that in place.

They've got to resolve the security situation, make sure they can fairly

distribute aid,

make sure that it gets to the people who really need it, that it isn't

intercepted and stolen.

So there is a real issue here.

The Israelis are being called on to ensure more humanitarian corridor safe

routes so that

aid workers can get around in Gaza safely, can do their work, can distribute

that aid,

and get it to the people who need it.

Okay, Dan Johnson, thank you very much for the moment, and of course you've got

plenty

more on that story.

On the BBC News website where we continue to run a live page with Russia.

We have a major development this morning related to the war in Gaza.

The three European governments, all U.S. allies say that they will recognize

the

Palestinian state next Tuesday.

Now, as you know, Palestinians have one of this for decades.

MTS Tyab is following this in East Jerusalem and has the latest on it.

MTS, this is a very big deal.

Can you help us understand the significance of this?

Yeah.

If having rapists in the neighborhood is enough to justify carpet bombing,

Israel's going to

rethink that non-extradition policy they have, Israel is also relatively

densely populated

with, you know, that sort of thing.

I don't know, I wouldn't be talking about this like...

Yeah, it's an enormous deal for these three European countries to do so.

And as you can imagine, Israel has reacted pretty furiously to the move by

these

countries and their decision to formally recognize a Palestinian state.

So angry that it's ordered back its ambassadors to Norway and Ireland and has

called the

plan, and I'm quoting here a distorted step as the fighting in Gaza rages on.

A warning now to our viewers, some of the images in this report are quite dist

ressing.

Today, Ireland, Norway and Spain are announcing that we recognize the state of

Palestine.

Ireland's T-shirt, Simon Harris, may be announcing alongside the Spanish and

Norwegian prime

ministers.

The move is both rare and significant.

Wait, is this not good in terms of a one-state solution?

Dude, recognizing Palestinian statehood is not a bad thing.

Okay?

It doesn't mean that the conversation stops there.

It just means that there is another vector of pressure.

That's all this is.

Okay?

If it wasn't significant, America wouldn't be trying to desperately veto it at

the U.S.

Security Council and then voting against it when the U.S.

and the U.N. General Assembly votes for Palestinian statehood.

That's it.