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or like this is so bad.

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It's just you are doing the exact opposite.

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If your goal is to defend Israel,

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just make sure E-Fartlow is nowhere near Twitter

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or pay them to say anti-Israel shit.

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Because honestly, this is having a reverse polarizing,

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negatively polarizing effect.

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Brett Gelliman, I feel like Ultra Zionist propaganda

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like wroughts your brain in a really significant way,

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where you are just like, well, I can't even see how fucking gross

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this guy is.

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When is it anti-Semitic?

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When is what anti-Semitic?

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Like what I'm saying.

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I'm not pro-Israel brother.

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In the words of a Twitter user who made fun of Kanye West

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after he refused to say something about Palestine.

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Kanye West decided being a Zionist is the most anti-Semitic you can be.

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So he chose to be a Zionist.

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Anyway.

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As a Jew, I have zero respect for others who blindly bind a Zionism.

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No, I get it.

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I totally get it, man.

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Listen, everybody is susceptible to propaganda, okay?

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It's very powerful.

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I sit breaking through all of that and coming to your own conclusions,

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requires a stroke of luck for sure, and a shit ton of self criticism.

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And I say this is someone who, as a Turkish person growing up in Turkey,

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who believes that the Armanian genocide happened.

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Like, you have to understand.

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Like, I grew up in that environment and it took a lot.

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For me to shake that off.

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Jewish kids in America, especially if they have like ultra Zionist or

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lightly Zionist, even liberal Zionist family members.

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Yet, propaganda is for a very long time from birth, basically.

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And the worst part about it is a lot of the propaganda is based around real historical,

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factually correct evidence-based concepts, okay?

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That's why it is so fucking hard to shake off too.

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Because it's not just like birthright where they're like here, look how scary Palestinians

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are.

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Also look at how sexy the IDF soldiers are.

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Please go have, go, you guys should hook up and make babies in Israel.

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It's beyond that.

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There's also the history books worth of information that shows that like you as a Jew,

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have been hunted down and persecuted relentlessly throughout time.

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And you have to always remember that.

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And it can happen again and look at how anti-Semitic people are.

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All of that is true, every single part of that narrative in Jewish history is correct.

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That's why it's such a devastatingly effective strategy.

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Because it's surrounded itself or at its core, it has fundamental,

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historically accurate truths.

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That's it.

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Huh.

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Like why do you guys think, you would think that like the Arab world did the fucking Holocaust,

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the way that these goddamn apes wearing suits in European countries,

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hawk about how the Arab world deserves everything it gets, how barbaric they are.

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It's an abdication of responsibility by the Germans for the record.

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It's a very comfortable narrative, so you can maintain your moral superiority.

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We're the civilizing force of the world.

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We would never do genocide, we would never be anti-Semitic.

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How dare you, that is for the Arabs, the barbarians.

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You know, isn't people apes further to humanizing people?

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Yes, and I love doing it.

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That's your takeaway from this, if that's your takeaway from this,

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when I say apes and suits, what I'm simply mentioning, and I hope you guys understand this,

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is that the way that Europeans who come from a colonial historical background

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present themselves in their actions and their history within the framework of a civilizing force,

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that there's somehow above it all, okay? There's somehow above it all.

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That's why I like to say, you know, angloid or things of that nature, basically.

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It is what people historically have regarded the victims of colonial occupation.

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You know, it's a way to reframe it.

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Intellectual gods observing and judging the vermin from above, exactly.

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And yet, that's why I say apes and a suit.

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Like, you wear the suit and you present yourself as elevated.

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After all, you're not a mere tribesman, right?

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You have science, you have the might, you have the will of God backing you.

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And therefore, of course, these are supposed to be your servile subjects.

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Like, the fuck do you mean they don't know any better?

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There is that air of superiority that a lot of people, especially the European mind,

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often finds itself susceptible to such ways of thinking.

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That's why I like calling angloids apes and suits because you are uncivilized.

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What's really ironic in all this is that growing up in a Zionist community,

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we were taught the Israeli terrorist groups during the founding of Israel

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and teachers called them terrorists, but the takeaway was that they were ultimately good.

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Yeah, I mean, Leahy, starring gang, openly called themselves terrorists.

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Dorian, because your defense to Pierce Morgan was, I didn't know I have three people who do my Twitter.

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I gave it to them, by the way, I'd love to know even one name of those three.

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I dared you to mention their names because I'd like to question them because I believe you're

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fabricating that as well.

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I think you wrote this yourself.

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You did not give it to three people who worked for you on Twitter, but here's my question.

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You claim to be a serious historian.

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What kind of serious historian before they even know the fact says,

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I love seeing dead Jews.

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You admit you knew nothing.

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You say that you had no knowledge.

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And you were saying, glory out of lieu yet.

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May more Jewish women be shot in the vagina and have their breast cut off now.

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Yeah, he said that, dude.

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That's crazy.

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Later when Pierce Morgan said to you, hey, norm, at least take it off.

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At least to leave it.

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You now admit 1200 died.

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And you know what you said?

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It's part of the historical record.

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So you are a fraudulent historian by your own admission.

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You said this fraud that you are thrilled that Jews were shot in the vagina.

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Women were gang raped.

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It's part of history, but it's a false history.

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So to be fair, I love that bro has no arguments.

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He's just making shit up.

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Like his argument is like, hey, first of all, a lot of atrocities did occur on October 7.

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Just stick to the actual shit and say, norm celebrated it.

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And that's a gotcha enough, you know what I mean?

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That's it.

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If your goal is to not have a productive conversation and like,

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embarrass your opponent, which is the goal of the debate, okay?

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Then just fucking do that.

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You don't have to be like, yeah, that's right.

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They were playing football with the vaginas.

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And then a baby came out of one of the vaginas.

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And then the baby tried to high five.

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The Hamas terrorists.

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And then the Hamas terrorists actually started playing football with the baby.

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And then there were rats.

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They were eating the rats.

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And then the rats were eating the babies.

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And then the rats grew.

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And then they ate the rats that ate the babies.

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That's how Hamas works.

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Sorry, I just mixed up my propaganda.

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All of a sudden, I'm on me park.

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Fair peers, when you tell me ad hominem, come on, the man either has credibility,

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or he has no credibility.

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There's no tenured, yeah.

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Let me give the final words to Norma Finkelstein.

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That part is fucked up because he has no tenured due to Alan Dershowitz.

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People are going to clip that and say you're trivializing

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October seven.

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Yeah, I don't give a shit dog.

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They say whatever the fuck they want.

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They say it anyway.

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Bro, people say I'm a fucking Vladimir Putin supporter.

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They call me Asama Bin Laden.

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You saying people are going to clip that doesn't change that reality.

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They're going to clip it anyway.

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If you know they're going to clip it,

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you know,

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show the full context when you see it.

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The issue before us is Gaza.

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It's not me.

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Now, there is a temptation, obviously, in my part to defend my professional honor and my

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personal honor, but I am going to forego that I want to withstand the temptation and end

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on the note that this conversation began and was supposed to continue.

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And so I would say that if you are in Diting Me,

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then you are also in Diting the sanity of the 15 judges on the International Court of Justice,

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including, quite surprising to me, including the American judge.

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Now, if you examine the proceedings closely, which I did,

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each judge had the option of including in their decision what's called a declaration.

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And the German judge did exercise that option and wrote a five-page declaration.
