IC–051 | Podcast Revealed Hasan's Undisclosed Speech Writer - CCP Propagandist, Eric Hovagim
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[0:00] It's up and so today.
[0:01] Wow.
[0:02] Yes.
[0:04] You know, it is possible that you guys remember what the fuck we
[0:08] were on prior to the phone.
[0:09] We're all on the thought train together.
[0:11] Yeah, all on the thought train.
[0:12] Thought train, gay son, daughter, or whatever.
[0:15] Happy Pride Month.
[0:17] Neither either have the thought train.
[0:19] There's a joke in there.
[0:21] Yeah, it's fine.
[0:22] But yeah, so regardless--
[0:26] We're regardless.
[0:26] You got your $200 Chinese phone.
[0:28] I got my $200 Chinese phone.
[0:31] No, it's like a op-oh.
[0:33] Op-oh.
[0:33] It's a different phone brand.
[0:34] They have like higher ones, but I got a really cheap budget one.
[0:38] And yeah, there was a point to that story.
[0:40] And I lost that.
[0:41] Let's move on.
[0:42] Let's move on.
[0:43] Let's move on.
[0:45] We can try it again later, you know?
[0:46] We'll try it again later.
[0:47] Maybe we'll arrive at this point back.
[0:49] It'll come back in a little bit.
[0:49] We'll circle back.
[0:50] Yeah, we'll circle back.
[0:51] Yeah, yeah, OK.
[0:52] Well, listen, you're going to be on the hot seat.
[0:58] No, it's OK.
[0:59] There is a couch, and there could be room in there.
[1:01] But you put me on a different chair, so it's a fun.
[1:03] [LAUGHTER]
[1:04] Yeah, we actually don't like you.
[1:06] So we wanted you to--
[1:07] I figured, I figured, I think I pissed you off
[1:10] at the Argentinian thing, my fault.
[1:12] Yeah, so for context, can't be playing.
[1:16] I arrived immediately.
[1:17] Noah starts shitting on Argentinian food, which frankly--
[1:20] OK, Paul, there was a lot that happened there.
[1:21] First of all, I showed up here on time.
[1:24] You showed up an hour and a half late.
[1:25] [LAUGHTER]
[1:27] We've been here for 90 minutes.
[1:29] But that's what you said.
[1:30] Secondly, we was having a great grand old time.
[1:34] I was being super nice, super respectful.
[1:36] That's a lie.
[1:38] Well, you were there.
[1:39] Oh, you guys were.
[1:41] Yeah, you got it.
[1:42] You come in the room, and I was giving you
[1:45] the benefit of the doubt for two seconds.
[1:47] And then you started being like, I love Argentina.
[1:50] And I was like--
[1:50] That's not true.
[1:51] That didn't happen.
[1:52] That didn't happen.
[1:53] You came out as a nationalist and declared
[1:55] her love for middle age.
[1:56] And this is my people, and the politicians, or whatever.
[1:58] She was like, I specifically love the guy.
[2:00] No way.
[2:01] No way.
[2:01] No way.
[2:02] I love you, Leslie.
[2:03] I love him.
[2:03] Oh, Ms. Real kind.
[2:05] What do we say?
[2:06] We're just lying now on this podcast.
[2:08] Apparently, now we just lie.
[2:09] I wouldn't lie.
[2:10] It's not a lie if it happened.
[2:12] Now we didn't happen, Django.
[2:13] Why are you-- literally, you're both gaslighting me.
[2:16] This is ridiculous.
[2:16] It's not gaslighting me.
[2:17] It's not gaslighting me.
[2:18] Hey, let's use terms.
[2:19] The fine gaslighting would be if I was like, you're crazy.
[2:23] I never called you crazy.
[2:24] You're literally doing that.
[2:26] No.
[2:27] I'm saying-- wait.
[2:31] You're saying that I said all of these things
[2:34] that I didn't say.
[2:36] You didn't say anything about loving Argentinian food?
[2:39] You said that.
[2:40] I just defended it when you said that it's lost.
[2:42] Defended Argentina.
[2:43] No.
[2:44] Just the food.
[2:46] And I didn't say that I love Javier Millet.
[2:48] And I didn't say that the politics were there.
[2:50] I said the opposite of that.
[2:51] I didn't even know his first name.
[2:53] You know a lot about it.
[2:54] I was like, what is that?
[2:56] He's the president, brother.
[2:58] What are we-- what are you--
[3:00] Of what?
[3:01] Of Argentina.
[3:02] I don't go there.
[3:03] It's spin facts.
[3:06] Am I crazy?
[3:07] No.
[3:08] Am I losing my mind?
[3:10] Comment if I'm the one that's losing it right now
[3:13] or if I am being ghastly because I don't know what's going on.
[3:16] Listen, regardless, we can shit on a lot of things
[3:20] about that country.
[3:22] Namely, the politics, the governance.
[3:25] To some degree, the people.
[3:27] I don't know anything about the people.
[3:29] I just know you.
[3:30] Yeah.
[3:30] Bad vibe.
[3:31] [LAUGHTER]
[3:33] That's what I'm saying.
[3:33] I need it.
[3:34] I need it.
[3:36] I get the fuck vibes.
[3:37] It's fair and it's valid.
[3:39] However, the food--
[3:41] I don't even have tattoos, though.
[3:42] Thank you.
[3:43] Yeah.
[3:43] Wow.
[3:44] First nice thing.
[3:45] No, I said other nice things.
[3:46] You just ignored them.
[3:47] [LAUGHTER]
[3:48] Did I miss something?
[3:49] She does that a lot.
[3:50] Yeah, I know, right?
[3:52] Why are you guys teaming?
[3:53] Sorry.
[3:54] We had an owl.
[3:54] We had an owl.
[3:55] We had an owl.
[3:56] We had an owl.
[3:57] We had an owl.
[3:57] My ally.
[3:59] And yet.
[4:00] Ally.
[4:00] Yeah.
[4:01] No.
[4:02] No comradery.
[4:03] That's not how you say that.
[4:04] It's all comradery.
[4:05] No comradery happening here.
[4:06] Well, to be fair, you didn't come from where I speak.
[4:08] Because I'll actually answer the word evangelical-less.
[4:11] Mm.
[4:12] Mm.
[4:13] You will-- you tried to say it a couple of times,
[4:14] so I just wanted you to have the correct way of saying it.
[4:18] Yeah, your tone, though.
[4:19] Yeah.
[4:20] It's the Argentinian fucked vibes.
[4:22] Regardless, listen, moving on, because I cannot handle
[4:26] the gaslighting at this point in time.
[4:27] What gaslighting?
[4:29] [LAUGHTER]
[4:31] This is like when I run on the songstream, and he's like--
[4:35] I was talking to-- I talk to all your friends.
[4:37] They don't--
[4:38] [LAUGHTER]
[4:39] They don't want to agree with you.
[4:42] Sorry, you were on the songstream.
[4:44] This is literally when I went on the songstream,
[4:46] and he just started saying that I set a bunch of shit
[4:48] that I didn't say.
[4:49] The gas-- so why is everybody gaslighting dude this week?
[4:53] I don't know what you're talking about.
[4:56] I don't-- yeah.
[4:57] I don't recall.
[4:59] Eat shit.
[5:00] Anyway.
[5:01] I want you to know-- I want you all to know,
[5:03] I specifically came on the podcast,
[5:05] because I saw all that y'all was in Hassan's orbit,
[5:07] and I was like, I have to cloud chase.
[5:08] Absolutely.
[5:09] And we'll get you there.
[5:10] No, that's fair.
[5:11] We have him on speed.
[5:12] Well, to be fair, I did meet his producer in China.
[5:16] Yeah.
[5:16] Oh my god, Marge.
[5:17] No.
[5:18] Eric, the interview producer--
[5:20] His producer is Mark.
[5:21] His interview producer.
[5:22] Come on, you don't know all these people.
[5:23] You don't even tap into him like, Marge.
[5:25] You ain't tapped into someone I've never met, like me.
[5:29] That's true.
[5:30] It's true.
[5:32] Look at my proletariat.
[5:34] He's Eric.
[5:35] Eric.
[5:36] Did I miss something?
[5:37] He lived in China.
[5:40] You're telling me that "Sondpiker"
[5:41] has a specific producer in China at all times.
[5:43] Yes, for his interview.
[5:45] Someone tell Jesse Waters right now.
[5:46] Is it like his translator or some shit?
[5:48] No, Eric doesn't speak Chinese.
[5:50] [LAUGHTER]
[5:53] I have no idea what's happening.
[5:55] Well, he lives there.
[5:56] He lives there.
[5:57] He's learning.
[5:58] His girlfriend does a show there.
[6:00] She's Korean.
[6:01] What is he doing?
[6:02] Oh, formal song.
[6:04] There's already Marge.
[6:05] He has a producer already.
[6:06] He does the research for the interviews.
[6:09] So you see how that's not a producer?
[6:12] I don't know any of these words to me.
[6:13] I've been doing this myself this entire time.
[6:15] Sounds good.
[6:15] Yeah, I think he's describing this as an interview.
[6:17] So Dante Munoz described him as the interview producer.
[6:20] So I'm kind of using Dante's words,
[6:21] and I'll throw him under the bus.
[6:23] [LAUGHTER]
[6:23] All right, well, I love the state of the American left.
[6:31] It's so amazing.
[6:32] Yeah.
[6:36] That was very good.
[6:37] Thanks for that.
[6:39] What's OK?
[6:40] Next time.
[6:40] Oh, wait, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[6:42] Speaking of the American left, California is fucking cooked.
[6:45] Oh, I saw all that shit.
[6:46] Pretty brutal.
[6:47] It's so funny.
[6:48] They really fucked over the butch guy.
[6:50] Butch wear?
[6:50] Yeah, butch guy.
[6:51] Yeah, I mean, I would hate to be a leftist influencer in LA
[6:55] right now.
[6:55] Further away.
[6:57] Oh, my fault.
[6:58] Oh, it's my fad.
[7:00] No, but yeah, I know.
[7:01] I saw that they, like, the butch.
[7:04] Butch.
[7:05] The butch.
[7:06] The butch.
[7:07] The butch.
[7:08] The butch.
[7:09] The butch.
[7:10] The butch.
[7:11] The butch.
[7:12] The butch.
[7:13] The butch.
[7:14] The butch being on the ballot.
[7:15] California's butch.
[7:16] Many such cases.
[7:17] Yeah, but then, like, the best case was.
[7:19] First time.
[7:20] Yeah, no, but, like, then in the next best was, like, who Tom
[7:24] Styer, the billionaire?
[7:25] Yeah.
[7:26] And it's like, corporate pack.
[7:27] And also, wasn't he, like, the prison guy?
[7:29] Yeah.
[7:30] Before he was prison guy.
[7:31] Best guy is, like, private prison guy.
[7:33] And he's like, it's private prison, private equity guy.
[7:37] Yeah.
[7:38] And then, and then it's, it's between the, the, but, Becerra?
[7:41] What's it?
[7:42] What's his?
[7:43] Yeah.
[7:44] But Becerra, and he was, like, the pro ice guy?
[7:45] Yeah.
[7:46] Yeah.
[7:47] They're all pro ice.
[7:48] I love it.
[7:49] It's great.
[7:50] All pro ice guy.
[7:51] Who's the other one?
[7:52] Oh, fuck.
[7:53] I forgot his name.
[7:54] What the fuck is his name?
[7:55] Molok or Ball?
[7:56] No.
[7:57] 2020.
[7:58] It was funny seeing Katie Porter get five percent.
[8:01] I like that.
[8:02] That's cool.
[8:03] That was good.
[8:04] That was, that was nice.
[8:05] Um, yeah.
[8:06] So anyway, California is no more.
[8:08] Yeah.
[8:09] Yeah.
[8:10] No.
[8:11] Which I mean, to be fair, like, that was already on the horizon.
[8:12] Like, I think people give California way too much credit for being
[8:15] like, like left or whatever, when like, in reality, like, it's quite a
[8:19] feeling.
[8:20] It's like, L.A. and San Francisco, like, you had that, but then San Francisco
[8:24] lost a lot
[8:25] of it just because, like, the tech bro is, like, invaded.
[8:27] The tech bro is invaded and took over.
[8:30] Yeah.
[8:31] And so, like, they kind of lost it, but, like, outside of, like, the major
[8:34] cities, it's
[8:35] incredibly Republican.
[8:36] It's just, there's so many people that live in California.
[8:39] But there's more, like, there's, I think, literally more, isn't there more
[8:43] Republicans
[8:43] in California than there is in Texas?
[8:46] Like per number?
[8:47] Probably.
[8:48] I think number wise.
[8:49] Yeah.
[8:50] I think, I just think, like, you know what I mean?
[8:51] I mean, and also, like, they're, they're, uh, I was going to say prime minister
[8:55] .
[8:55] They're governor.
[8:56] They're new.
[8:57] I'm governor.
[8:58] You have been new.
[8:59] I'm new.
[9:00] Governor Newton of California.
[9:01] Yes.
[9:02] Very good.
[9:03] He, like, he's, like, like, the most shilly, slimy corporate, like, sleaze ball
[9:08] .
[9:09] Careful.
[9:10] Like, he's handsome, though.
[9:12] I don't know.
[9:13] Okay.
[9:14] He's, like, okay.
[9:15] I think he's pretty handsome.
[9:16] As a lesbian.
[9:17] He's a piece of shit, I think.
[9:18] He doesn't understand men.
[9:19] Please.
[9:20] Hey, man in the room.
[9:21] [LAUGHTER]
[9:22] [INAUDIBLE]
[9:23] No question.
[9:24] [LAUGHTER]
[9:25] There is no question.
[9:26] There's no question.
[9:27] We're just commenting.
[9:28] No.
[9:29] But, uh, the producer, uh, producer man.
[9:32] Uh, no, but, uh, like, I can, like, see you, like, someone who's, like, an
[9:37] objectively
[9:37] target guy.
[9:38] And, like, I--
[9:39] It's not attractive.
[9:40] Let's not get crazy.
[9:41] That's what you've just said.
[9:42] Like, handsome.
[9:43] Not the same thing.
[9:44] Oh.
[9:45] We're being ghastly.
[9:46] Hello?
[9:47] I'm sorry.
[9:48] Do we not know?
[9:49] Do we were, we're not just, they don't have meaning?
[9:50] I thought attractive was, like, neutral, handsome.
[9:52] What, handsome is like, like, an opinion based?
[9:55] No.
[9:56] Well, yeah, but it is--
[9:57] Like, objectively attractive.
[9:58] That's what people say.
[9:59] Like, he's not attractive, but he is, like, conventionally handsome is what I'm
[10:01] saying.
[10:02] I think you have that backward.
[10:03] Yeah.
[10:04] That's, like, conventionally attractive.
[10:05] Yeah.
[10:06] They say conventionally attractive.
[10:07] I don't think he's that.
[10:08] Like, technically, he is, he fits the criteria of handsomeness, which is, like,
[10:13] male specific.
[10:14] Regardless, my life isn't--
[10:15] Do you understand what I'm saying?
[10:17] Semantics are happening here that don't need to be happening.
[10:23] Continue on.
[10:24] Carry on.
[10:25] But my thing is, it's like, yes, I understand, like, for a lot of, like,
[10:29] straight women also
[10:30] gay men.
[10:31] He's, like, someone who is, like, fuckable, or whatever, in, like, their eyes,
[10:34] right?
[10:35] But, like, in your eyes, too.
[10:36] But the thing is, in fact, I don't understand, is, like, if he gives such slime
[10:41] ball energy.
[10:42] No, I agree.
[10:43] That, like, yeah.
[10:44] He's a piece of shit.
[10:45] Not to say he's being too crazy, but if he was inside me, I'd feel like a
[10:47] horrible person.
[10:48] Yeah.
[10:49] You know what I mean?
[10:50] No, for sure.
[10:51] Like, I feel like he's corrupting my soul by being there.
[10:55] Yeah.
[10:56] You know what I mean?
[10:58] I was not-- you caught me very often.
[11:00] I was not expecting those words to come out of your mouth right now.
[11:02] No, I agree.
[11:03] During Pride Month?
[11:04] Yeah, I was saying, I don't want to have sex with a man on during Pride Month.
[11:07] Right.
[11:08] But the visceral description--
[11:09] Well, that you gave, like, biggest slime ball of--
[11:11] Don't be such a prude.
[11:12] [LAUGHS]
[11:13] You got conservative-- conservative sexual politics over here.
[11:17] Oh, God.
[11:18] Don't talk about insertion.
[11:20] I didn't-- that's not a word.
[11:21] I didn't say that.
[11:23] [LAUGHS]
[11:27] You have a way with words.
[11:29] I know.
[11:30] And making them--
[11:31] In many languages.
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