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Necessary in evolving the correct tactics for international communism if they

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were correct then certain conclusions must be drawn

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Of course there can be no question of placing conditions in Russia on a par

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with conditions in Western Europe

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But as regards

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But as regards the particular question of the meaning of the concept that

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parliamentarianism has become politically obsolete

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Do account should be taken of our experience for unless concrete experience is

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taken into account such concepts very easily turned into empty phrases

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Maybe even saying stuff like revolution now in the United States of America

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In 2025 in September November 1917 did we the Russian Bolsheviks not have more

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right than any Western communist to consider that

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Parliamentarianism was politically obsolete in Russia

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Of course we did for the point is not whether bourgeois parliaments have

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existed for a long time or a short time

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But how far the masses of the working people are prepared

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Ideologically politically and practically

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Mmm much to consider there to accept the Soviet system and to dissolve the

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bourgeois democratic parliament or allow it to be dissolved

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It is an absolutely incontestible and fully established historical fact that in

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September to November

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1917 the urban working class and the soldiers in the presence of Russia were

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because of a number of special conditions

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Exceptionally well prepared to accept the Soviet system and it is spanned the

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most Democrat the most democratic of bourgeois parliaments nevertheless

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The Bolsheviks did not boycott the constituent assembly

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But took part in the elections both before and after the proletariat conquered

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political power that these elections yielded

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exceedingly valuable and to the proletariat highly useful political results has

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I make bold to hope been proven by me in the

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above-mentioned article which analyzes in detail the returns of the elections

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to the constituent assembly in Russia now the reason why

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The reason why this is important

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And ties back to what I was saying is that

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I'm gonna repeat it

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Americans broadly do not know what socialism is and those who have been taught

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what socialism is has been taught wrong and are

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Terrified of it. They have been negatively polarized against it

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Don't you think that if one of the major two parties has viable socialist

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alternatives at a time of their utmost?

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Weakness and their weakest point of all time would actually get a lot more

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people on board to not be afraid of this terminology

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Don't you think that that would be viable and maybe even later down the line

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building a fucking alternative third party?

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Because a lot of people Michael from Pennsylvania included have talked about

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Bernie Sanders building a third party

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This is the best possible time to do it Bernie Sanders clearly doesn't seem to

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think so he thinks that they

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We still need to utilize the existing confines of the Democratic Party

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maybe that's because he is old and an institutionalist and and I guess for some

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reason a

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Defender of Joe Biden and he's done a lot of things that I don't agree with in

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general

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But ultimately but ultimately the very fact that Bernie Sanders is a known

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entity in American politics and has since

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2016 by running for the Democratic primary and

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Having an incredibly successful run within the Democratic primary structure

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within 2016 that created a

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A a for the first time ever a vision of a socialist America should

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Possibly allow you to understand that working within the existing duopoly is

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not the worst idea at least in the interim

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Okay

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For years and years

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Palestinians wanted awareness they wanted a recognition for their humanity the

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game has changed now because they finally got it

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okay

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Back then I'm sure there were plenty of people 20 years ago that also simply

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wanted a one-party state

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Okay, but these

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Conversations were not being had in the Western world at all

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Because these things take time because it requires at first brought awareness

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initiatives and then you move into

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Mobilizing then you move into organizing then you make demands

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Then when your demands are not met you actually show your power and the way you

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show your power is through work stoppages

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All of this stuff takes time. It takes a tremendous amount of effort to

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organize around okay

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labor militancy did not happen in this country overnight and

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It was squashed after decades and decades of propaganda and violence from the

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state and also

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legislation I

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Would agree with you if any of the left in the Democratic Party was like Trump.

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That's okay. There you go

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The that great you understand what I'm saying here

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What Trump has done in the fascist direction for the Republican Party must be

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done in the socialist direction within the Democratic Party

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It's a lot harder of a bargain

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But we're not even moving in that direction at all

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it is crazy that this is the closest at least in my lifetime that I have ever

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gotten to

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Seeing the Democrats come to terms with left

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Populism as a as a messaging tool and there are still leftists in this chat so-

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called leftists in this chat

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That are

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Unironically turning around and be like nah dude. It's fucking fake. No reason

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No reason to be the change we want to see fuck you. This is defeatism. This is

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nihilism

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You must exhaust all options, okay, that's it. That's it

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We have like 10 social Democrats in Congress and chatters are trying to compare

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the conditions in Russia that led to the revolution

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I know I know I know in summary ironically lives are finally listening and

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paying attention policies over aesthetics

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It's at least a good sign that people actually appreciate good policies even in

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this case

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The representative is potentially to flawed us on is not defending Graham

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himself

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But rather he's applauding the general public's focus on critical policies for

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once exactly

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Yeah, man supporting Plattners Nazi as is defeatism

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How can you fucking reduce what I am talking about here that is infinitely

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broader than Graham Plattner to

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simply Graham Plattner

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Once again, I will stand by

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My initial assessment that I am a Janet militia Mills advocate, okay much like

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many of you

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Much like many of you. I am already an advocate for Janet Mills. I'm in the

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tank for Janet Mills. Okay, Janet Mills is my goat

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She will be 79 by the time she actually gets into office if she even defeats

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Susan Collins at all

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But even if she doesn't defeat Susan Collins both Janet Mills and Susan Collins

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are not only women and

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therefore better than Graham Plattner, but they also don't have any Nazi

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tattoos and therefore also better than Graham Plattner

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They neither neither of them have served in the American military also better

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and more moral than Graham Plattner and on top of that

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On top of that. They never they never went and work for black water again

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better than Graham Plattner

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Now, of course they love Israel and they're pro-Israel, but but they're just

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pro-Israel

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In in in name only right

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Yeah, which is why I'm a fucking girl boss who is hashtag writing with Janet

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Janet Mills Janet yeah all mills no frills

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I'm a Janet head. I'm a Janet head

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What more do you want from me?

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My bro hates you and he says is because you do not read left this literature

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and more

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So do not encourage your viewers to do so even says he likes Hasaldean more for

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that reason alone

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Which is insane in my opinion

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I only say this because I think you were correct about

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Learning leftist history through memes and this being a big problem

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I agree that you could do more to encourage your viewers to learn more about

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this than memes

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Yeah, okay. Well, this shit is fucking boring for the most part

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This is the most entertaining version of uh allowing this conversation to take

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place

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Okay

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Within the confines of a fucking debate

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So it's just not you know

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Yeah, 3000 people left while I was doing this okay

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Bergus Everett says grandplatner's life of posting in his tattoos are stress

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testing the parties interesting younger fresher candidates

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How do you expect the win-back man when you go back through somebody's read a

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history and just pull it all out and say?

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Oh my god, this person has no right to ever be in politics. He told Dave Weigel

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Do I like any of it? Of course not do I like what he's campaigning on and the

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way he's connecting the working class voters

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That's the piece that's been missing from our party said senator Heinrich of

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his post

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He's still backing platinum, but says future candidates should stay off Reddit

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I mean, I I do agree with this. I can't believe I'm saying this but yes future

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candidates should stay off Reddit

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Anyway, we are now moving on from this uh utterly unproductive conversation

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But even though actually I don't think it's unproductive

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I hope people actually took away some lessons about at least
